The representative of the authorities, A. Pocius, calls for a separation of concepts in the Radio News program "Dienos kistos".The politician suggested talking about exceptional cases of loss of citizenship, not its deprivation."Our main goal is to foresee exceptional cases of loss of citizenship of a citizen of the Republic of Lithuania.I would think that the concept itself should be worded differently - not to deprive, not to deprive, but to lose in the case of an exception.How freedom is lost after committing a crime, and here let the lawyers find the right mechanism.That it should be their initiative to stop similar events in Minsk and Moscow for harming our country and our order.It's not like that - that it's not possible, but we're not doing anything and we're waiting for some delegation to go again and do it again," MP A. Pocius said on the air of News Radio.The member of the Seimas also quoted professor Vytautas Landsbergis in the program - doing nothing is also acting."This is something I propose to do and do.And precisely to find the best option in discussions, if necessary - and in disputes.But let's look, because we are on the eastern flank of NATO, among the states fighting in Ukraine - we have a border with Russia, the Kaliningrad region, and also - Belarus.Both countries are aggressors and we know what they are doing in Ukraine.They ignore any legal norms, nothing, civilians are killed there, there is a war going on.And our citizens allow themselves to neglect their duties.They think they have the right to say what they want, drive where they want.But I'm sorry", explained TS-LKD representative A. Pocius.When asked if this is not a draft law that is only intended to "preventively frighten", A. Pocius answered simply - "why not"."If the sword of Damocles hangs above the head, then it has a certain function.If you know that he is.But if it is not there, then what?It can work, because there will be nothing for it.And he will go to Moscow again, maybe to bring back the sun like it was in 1940.I think something needs to be done.That's why I think that this discussion is necessary", conservative A. Pocius shared his insights on the "Question of the Day" program of Žinia Radio.The signatory and ambassador Vytautas Plečkaitis was critical of such a proposal.The interviewer of the news radio testified that this proposal reminds him of Soviet times."As a signatory who created the state of Lithuania and fought for it to be as democratic as possible, for human rights to be better protected, it is difficult for me to understand such a thing as revocation or loss of citizenship - I do not see the difference here.It reminds me of Soviet times, we were very restricted then, we were instilled with fear.If we had been afraid all the time and did nothing, that country would not have existed.But still we are talking now about a state with 30 years of experience, which belongs to the democratic world.And we already have to imagine that such things as revocation of citizenship are something incomprehensible," V. Plečkaitis said.He agreed that it is not possible to simply monitor the trips of Lithuanian citizens to aggressor countries, but the work, according to him, must be carried out by responsible structures: the Department of State Security (VSD), intelligence, counter-intelligence, the General Prosecutor's Office."After all, are those people, those three or four people, a danger to Lithuania after going to Minsk?"Let it go.Why don't we stop people from traveling now?Let's start with Minsk, then Kazakhstan, then we'll add something else... I think the danger here is to go towards a dictatorship in general.And there are people in the Seimas who believe that the more we surround ourselves with walls, the safer we will be.I think that it is necessary to talk more with society, to teach it, to take care of it, to prepare it for war", said the signatory V. Plečkaitis.The proposal of conservators A. Pociaus and L. Kasčiūnas was criticized not only on the air of Žiniai Radio, but also by their colleague - Minister of National Defense Arvydas Anušauskas.The latter said that such proposals are more reminiscent of a totalitarian regime.Seimas member A. Pocius, when asked if he was expressing the party's agreed position, emphasized that he was expressing his opinion.The parliamentarian also added that a hybrid war is being waged against Lithuania."I respect everyone's opinion, but I reserve the right to have my own opinion.That's why I say it.And I want to say once again that the hybrid war against Lithuania is going on, cyber attacks are constantly happening.We know very well who organizes them.Belarus is organizing together with Russia to push illegal migrants into our country.This is also an act of hybrid warfare," explained the politician.TS-LKD representative A. Pocius said that agents of Kremlin influence help shape the opinion of Lithuania in the aggressor countries."I would think that it is very clear why this is being done - because we seek to strengthen NATO's eastern flank, we seek to have as much security as possible in Lithuania.We do everything for it.And the other side tries to exert influence through its various agents of influence, possible collaborators and tries to achieve its own goals.They are trying to discredit our country, to present a different opinion to their society - maybe they should go to the rescue and help those Lithuanians.One day, those rescuers can say - let's go rescue people in need in Lithuania", he assured.The parliamentarian emphasized once again that laws should provide that actions against the state of Lithuania and its constitutional order have consequences."This discussion is necessary," MP A. Pocius said on the Radio News program.On his part, the signatory V. Plečkaitis testified that this proposal is not significant in the general context."It is much more significant that our border guards have weapons, which they do not have.(…) And we are now paying attention to such little things, instead of doing what is necessary for our country", said V. Plečkaitis, an interviewer of the News Radio show "Dienos kistos" (Question of the Day).A member of the Seimas, a conservative, A. Pocius agreed that this issue may be a "trifle", but "one of the details that make up state security"."Yes, the VSD is doing its job, it submitted its findings to the prosecutor's office and other institutions.I would think that there is an additional exceptional punishment, which would maybe restrain a little more.Here is one of the suggestions, I am not categorical that this is exactly what should be done.The initiative is to talk about it," explained the MP.He agreed that such a measure could only be envisaged during a close war.Member of the Seimas A. Pocius argued that Russia connected the actions of the war in Ukraine with traitors and collaborators in the country."There are such people in our country as well, if they drive around and perform such actions.If a conflict started with neighboring countries, then those collaborators would clearly start acting against our country, they would be helpers", A. Pocius thought.Signatory V. Plečkaitis hastened to add that Lithuania is not currently in a state of war, in which case other laws come into effect.Political scientist: this is the same as proposing the return of the death penaltyPolitical scientist Bernaras Ivanovas said on the Radio News program "Dienos kistos" that there are no similar precedents in the world."A person acquires citizenship by the fact of birth, it is an absolute natural human right.I am talking about one single citizenship.(…) These are absolutely fundamental constitutional principles formulated by Aristotle.These are natural law norms that are still valid today and they are written in black and white in the Charter of Human Rights of the United Nations - citizenship, which is acquired as a natural human right, cannot be taken away from a person.It is then necessary to leave the United Nations organization, the Council of Europe, the EU and NATO as well," political scientist B. Ivanovas ironically said on the air of Žiniai radio.The political scientist said that the politicians making this proposal are simply uneducated, and the elections for the chairman of the TS-LKD party are also approaching."And, as I understand it, L. Kasčiūnas is preparing for a deadly fight with A. Anušauskas, so it is necessary to mobilize a patriotic electorate around him," political scientist B. Ivanovas presented another version.Political scientist B. Ivanovas assured that Lithuanian citizens traveling to Minsk or Moscow should not increase sanctions, but simply implement them, because they exist."If those people commit crimes, act against the state, there is a sufficient range of legal solutions that can be applied: to judge, determine punishments, put them in prison.There are measures," political scientist B. Ivanovas said on the Radio News program.He considered such a proposal by the two ruling representatives as "the purest populism"."Here it is the same as proposing to return the death penalty in Lithuania.(…) Man always wants blood, and if we were to offer public punishments, bitter war criminals, or even better - someone who is compromised for corruption, then this is political cannibalism.This is simply immoral to suggest.But here, the general public doesn't see it, because it's a bit "soapy" here.Because there are few people who know about matters of constitutional law, matters of democracy and democratic traditions in general", emphasized political scientist B. 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